ND: Episode 25 – Part 2

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   JP Dudley - January 10, 2022

   Ok guys, I can’t sit here any longer without pointing out that you two are falling into the exact same, although opposite position, of confirmation bias as you are accusing the “elitists” of doing. All your info about the good Dr. Malone and all the data from him, that you guys have been drooling over for the last five shows, come from him alone. although many of his points are good, you guys never research to find out what’s in it for him or to even go to the sources he himself gives as verifiable resources for his points and participations. Isn’t that what you are claiming the left is doing with Dr. Fauci. Who by the way, was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2008 from President…wait for it… George Bush. Dr. Malone by the way, never completed the PhD program he started, and despite Steve’s claim in episode 24 that he graduated from a PhD/Medical program he did not as far as i can tell from my RESEARCHING it myself. he did graduate from Northwestern’s medical school. Dr. Fauci graduated from Cornell’s school of medicine. Both very good schools! I can’t find anywhere that Dr. Malone ever received a license to practice medicine, but that doesn’t really mean anything when you are going to live in research. Ok so he is an MD who doesn’t seem to have practiced medicine and who has done research. Let’s look at what Billy keeps saying is, “He invented the technology that led to the vaccines…” well, there is a rather extensive, 150 pages or more, article in the scientific journal Nature on the history of mRNA, from discovery through development and production. Dr. Malone is mentioned in the timeline as being one of two pre-docs, meaning while he was working in someone else’s lab toward receiving a PhD, did in fact mix something with something and described what is now known as mRNA. This happened in many labs about the same time, but he did make a note in on a note pad, that he signed, of what they saw. Thats the extent of it. you didn’t wonder why he doesn’t have a patent for mRNA or why the law suites, to date, have been dropped. Do your own research!

   So, he was most definitely involved but I find it interesting that the Nobel committee in doing their due diligence for a potential Nobel prize have found so far that his contribution was negligible, as many other labs had done the same thing and many other scientists continued to experiment and took it much further, including publishing in peer reviewed journals rather than a signed not in a note pad. So, my conclusion, based on my own research, is that he is a smart guy, who found a way to make a name for himself, that he was not getting in the scientific community otherwise, and that his credentials are not all that impressive. Having said that, it doesn’t mean that much of what he is saying isn’t worth hearing or doing more research on. I’m just saying, he “ain’t all that impressive”.

   Billy, I’m shocked you didn’t pick up on the “what’s in it for him” or “follow the money” you are always harping on. He said in the interview that he is conducting a study for his client, a company that he will own a piece of their production of the drug combination if it comes out of the study showing positive results. I know a little bit about clinical research as i used to own a research company here in Broward. Give me a break, Dr. Malone, along with everyone else, has both personal motivation and economic motivation to do what they are doing.

   I also find you guys disingenuous when you accept his opinion on why he was removed from social media platforms when it is clear neither of you attempted to find out what his statements where, you are allowing him to control the facts. He may be correct, but you keep telling us to find out for ourselves….

   and that’s just about your Fauci replacement.

   Just so you know how I feel about Fauci since i made it clear how i feel about Malone. Dr. Fauci is a bureaucrat on the first order. he knows on which side his “bread is buttered” and has been able to stay in position since being appointed 1984, through many presidents and House and Senate majorities, proving his political acumen. (Remember Bush gave him the Medal of Freedom) He is the voice and face of the infectious disease side of the NIH and therefore is an accomplished politician. he is tasked with distributing research grants and on advising the Surgeon General of the US on matters related to infectious disease outbreaks and then is the “quarterback” once the “coach” (president/surgeon general) determines the “play” (direction/plan). He’s a talking head for the White House as long as the White House stays within the lines of the playing field defined by the NIH and CDC. (This is why he and Trump clashed. Trump wanted to define the field.) Like everything said by EVERY politician, from every party, there words must be weighed against their agenda and they all have one.

   One other point. i get it you have an opinion, and you want everyone to see the truth of your opinion, and you have come around to acknowledging that you are not reaching anyone with a differing opinion. At the beginning of your broadcasting, you asked us to invite those of differing opinions to listen. In 25.1 Steve said, “I know we are preaching to the choir. But we are giving you ammunition to go out there and face the elites.” or something to that effect. This is a huge change in your previously stated goal but i think this is a much more realistic point. It doesn’t appear that either of you is willing to present the facts from the other side sincerely and without prejudice. Here is my example for having this opinion.

   More than once, each of you has mentioned the cruise ships coming back with large numbers of COVID positive guests, even though they all had to be fully vaccinated and they boarded the ships having demonstrated that they had no symptoms (mainly free from cough and fever). This you both state, although Billy is much more animated about it, proves that the vaccines are useless. But I notice that neither of you take on the opposite issue, greater than 90% of all adults being hospitalized for treatment of sever COVID symptoms and almost 100% of all children hospitalized for the same care have not received a vaccine at all. If the first proves vaccines are useless, what does the second prove?

   If you say you trust the media reports of the first, but not of the second, you are fully involved in confirmation bias yourselves.

   Love the show!